Earlier this afternoon, I had an ICQ conversation with my friend Betsy. I know many friends wondering, debating (both privately and publically) about the war, and trying to tie it back to the Word and then to how that should guide our response to it. I hope to start dialog in this blog about this issue. The text has been cleaned up, editted for clarity, and grammar touched up. Feel free to invite people to read and give their input. I definitely want to clarify some of my own points and add other ideas.
Below is the text of our conversation.
Betsy Wang: As I watched about the news these days, I felt sadness and also shame to be a citizen of the U.S. @_@.
Dan Tshin: So, what's your sense of what's going on?
I'm going to start a conversation on my blog about it (referencing my entry at Blog(s) of war)...
What do you feel, as a Christian? What is your vision and hope for the near and medium future?
BW: I'm scared to see history of crusade repeating itself - hatred due to religious beliefs. That's scary and it can surely move us backwards to what we're done in carrying out the great commission. As a Christian ([who] potentially will be working oversea in the future), I'm concerned to be an Amercian Christian; because of this current situation, an invisible barrier of understanding and acceptance has instantly been built up. I'm not sure how to explain and respond to people who link Christianity to [being] American.
Because the world [has gotten] so much smaller due to gobalization, we have to understand how each decision and action will impact the world as a whole...it gets more complicated these days, but in many ways, now is the time that we as Followers of Christ have to step out and stand firm to see the Kingdom of God on earth.
DT: [That's] definitely a downside of having church and state so co-mingled. Sadly, Republicans are thought of as Christians and vice versa. "Separation of church and state" is hard to find, for all intensive purposes, in the USA - it is more implied. [But] in a sense, they (church and politics) are in bed together.
In Canada, the church and state have been very close, but [those] were the large organized churches (RCC, United, Anglican).. but otherwise in the sphere of citizenship, it's quite separate.
It is really so "easy" to follow spiritual principles laid in the Biblee - the greatest commandments. And pursuing those [commandments] with integrity would've prevented the steps that [have] led us ([which is] North America, the West) [in]to such a quagmire - politically, morally, etc. And integrity is the way out, too.
BW: Yesterday I was talking to my friend about the problem of having holding a U.S. passport in the future.
DT: And (perhaps perversely), I'm really glad the Canadian government has been such a vocal opposer to the war. Domestically, with respect to trade and economics - which is not a small issue - we'll be hurt, however.
BW: I'm thinking about getting my ROC (Taiwan) passport back (just in case)...but it's kinda stupid and useless anyway.
DT: [There are] lots of doors being opened and closed with this conflict. And I'm looking at this from a missions/aid point of view, [it is] something that we Canadians should capitalize on. My dad looked at the World Vision web site and it had so many openings for people to go to Iraq.
BW: I was thinking along that line too, looking at the current state of SARS and the war, I'm thinking about shifting focus from east asia to central asian and middle east as doors open and close. In my Perspectives class, we're learning about carrying only the pure Gospel, which transcends through all cultures, not a culturally packaged gospel. Ethnocentric type of thinking is very problematic.
DT: Yeah. My dad had some opportunities to go out the South East Asia, but will [now] postpone [exploring those opportunities].
BW: Religion is a very powerful thing. We need to exercise it in a proper ways. Not many people have the full grasp on the truth about the Kingdom of God - it's a mystery in many ways. History says lots about it. In the Kindgom of God, we should see life being transform and society also being transformed by the Truth. Micah 6:8 keeps on ringing my bell these days.
DT: AMEN!!!! [I] had a good conversation about the "Kingdom of God" in our Sunday School.. lots of people don't understand that concept [of Kingdom of God], which leads to other falacies about religion, spirituality and their role in life.
BW: Christianity is not about transforming people's religious belief or cultural values or technologies...it's a matter of bringing the Kingdom of God on earth so that God will be praised.
The Kindom of God is hard to understand. It's a life long process learning this mystery spoken so heavily in the gospel. [The Parable of the Mustard Seed and the Yeast, Parable of the Weeds, Parable of the Hidden Treasure and the Pearl, Parable of the Net, Parable of the Workers in the Vineyard, Parable of the Wedding Banquet..etc Parables after parables, we ALL miss it (the Kingdom of Heaven) at one point or the other. Matthew 13:14-17]
Dan: But through "God will be praised", religious beliefs, cultural values, and technologies WILL be transformed. I don't see a disconnect between spiritual and secular. I regard them as a holistic whole. "Worship" should involve all - this point leads to a discussion of vocation and calling.
BW: AMEN!! I totally agree 300 million % rooting for that!!
Sorry to cut this short, but I would totally love to talk to you more about this later if you're around.